A while ago I had an interesting
conversation with a friend of mine. He was having troubles with wrapping his
mind around this whole free trade and capitalism thing. He invited me to lunch
so that we could discuss it and wanted to find out my opinion on some of his
thoughts and ideas. I told him I would be happy to go with him and discuss what
was on his mind.
He started out by saying that he
thinks the ideal life of Utopia is attainable and it is through proper
education in schools and training in the home.
I said that it was not attainable.
Where are you going to find a school
that can keep and hold all of its students and lead them to an honest
graduation?
H: it wouldn’t be that hard. We
just have to make a system that is fun and easy to learn in. If we can do that
every kid would stay in school and learn proper techniques for helping the
society in life.
M: it would be difficult. Take for
example Detroit, which is possibly one of the most government controlled and
socialized cities in the country. They have a high school graduation rate of
less than 30%. They tried doing exactly what you are saying and it has failed miserably.
H: we just haven’t found the right system
to work in yet. It wouldn’t be hard if we forced everyone to go and stay in
school.
M: but as soon as you force someone
to do something that they don’t like to do (and how many children like going to
school?) there will be a pushback. Children especially do not understand the
importance of a good education. And in my opinion a good education is one that
teaches individuality and not conformity to social norms.
H: true, I also agree with that and
I think people should be individuals and not robots. But we can accomplish this
by letting people do what they want for a living. They still have their freedom
of choice about what jobs they do or where they live. It would just be that
there wouldn’t be any money or any financial restraints. If they wanted a
second house down in San Diego they could have one. It would just be shared by
others when they are not there.
M: but if everyone shares and it
belongs to everyone then who gets to decide when each person can go there and
how long they can stay? In your system how will society decide how much travel
and leisure time people can have?
H: it would be somebody’s job to
record and process all of this stuff. They would just call ahead and put their
name down and reserve it. Then when they showed up, if no one else was there,
it would be theirs for the week or weekend. If everyone just put in their time
and helped everyone else out it could work.
M: but then it wouldn’t be their house
and they wouldn’t be able to go whenever they wanted. They would be limited in
their travel time and would not be as free as they would be in a free society.
H: but they would! Can’t you see
they won’t always go to San Diego. Maybe one time they will want to go to Lake
Powell or New York or Florida. If they were able to go anywhere there wouldn’t ever
be any conflicts because everyone else would be somewhere else.
M: I think there are too many
people that would always want to be on vacation and go everywhere for you to
build enough resorts or beach houses to accommodate them all. But, I think we
are getting off topic here about your utopian ideas. Who is going to pay to
construct all of these houses? Where are you going to get the materials? If everyone
pitches in and does their part how are you going to decide who does this job
and who gets that job?
H: everyone decides where they go.
It is the exact same as the ideas you have about a free society. Carpenters would
still be carpenters and lawyers would still be lawyers. Everyone can decide for
themselves what profession they want to pursue and where they want to live.
M: that is where your ideas hit
another roadblock. And this is a huge one. Who would rather be a stone mason than
a movie critic if everyone gets paid the same and benefits the same from all their
work?
H: I know plenty of people who
would rather be a physical laborer than an actor or a writer. Some people excel
at some things much better than others do. Everyone would find their own little
niche in society and help out where they could.
M: you know people who would rather
do physical labor than writing because of the pay difference between the two. Nobody
would choose coal mining or snow removal over cooking competition judge. It will
not work because there are too many difficult things that people refuse to do
if they are going to be on an equal playing field as a person with a simple,
fun and enjoyable job. Nobody will take the risk of losing their own life to
support someone they have never met while that person gives them no physical,
spiritual, moral or mental support in return. A coal miner is not going to do
it unless there is an obvious reward waiting for him.
H: but there is an obvious reward! That
is the opportunity to live in a peaceful loving society filled with people who
care and love for each other. If everyone helped out with what they have or can
do this world would be a much better place.
M: that’s what Lenin said also.
H: who is that?
M: the communist dictator of
Russia. The guy who murdered millions in order to build the socialist utopia you’re
talking about.
H: and it worked! Under communism
in Russia people had better lives they lived in better conditions than they do
now and they had more food to eat than they do now. Everything about modern day
“free” Russia and communist Russia says that communism was better.
M: ignoring the fact that you don’t
care that millions of innocent people died in Russia I can say that everything
you just said is false. They may have lived better but that was based on a
system that couldn’t support itself. If it was so much better why did it end? Why
don’t they go back to it today?
H: they are trying to!
M: not the people who lived through
it. The reason they lived better was because they lived off of other peoples
money. They had a wildly unsustainable system. When they used all of their own
money they stole it from their satellite states and used all of their money. When
they ran out of money they got outside financial help, when that money was gone
people and countries saw that there was absolutely no way that they were going
to pay it back they stopped giving them money. Then what happened? In 1989 they
went bankrupt. They could no longer support their life on the system they had
and they went under. Just like every other country that has ever tried to
practice socialism.
H: just like modern day Greece and
Italy then I guess?
M: Exactly.
H: but if we train our children and
society correctly we can achieve that success where everyone helps and everyone
prospers. It is all in the education and training of our children. It wont
happen in our lifetime but it will happen sooner or later and everyone will
live in a better world.
M: I agree. But I think that we
have to teach them the opposite of what you are saying. I think we have to
teach them work ethic and entrepreneurship. Not socialism. If everyone fends
for themselves it will benefit everyone in the long run.
H: How can you say something like
that? How can you teach you kids to be so selfish as to only care about
themselves and not others?
M: first of all that is not how
things work. When one person sets out to make a fortune for himself he can only
do it by making others wealthier too. Unless he robs a bank or steals money
from others he will almost always benefit others.
H: if you work for yourself and try
to get money for yourself it does not
benefit others. You can take advantage of people and rob them blind with their
consent and it will be right in front of their eyes and they will never know
it. It is a cruel and evil system that lets a man rob from others to benefit
themselves!
M: I agree with only that last
statement. Which is why I wholeheartedly disagree with what you are saying
about socialism.
H: how can you say that? How can
you say that when you set out to help yourself you can only do that if you
benefit others? That is a complete lie. I agree it will work every now and then
but it will not work most of the time. It is a selfish idea and I can’t
understand it.
M: well let me give you an example.
Lets say that there is a man who knows how to make bricks. He makes them for
everyone to use but asks a little money in return to feed his family. So he is
a entrepreneur and he helps society by making his bricks and they help him by
giving him money. One day a couple comes to him and says that they want to build
a house to raise their family. They will need 5,000 bricks to build the house
they want; but neither have the skills nor the time to do it themselves. He says
he can accomplish the job, but it will take him several weeks to make that many
bricks, so in exchange for his service in making the bricks he asks for some
money from them to feed his own family in the meantime. They agree.
Several weeks go by and the couple
comes to claim their bricks and pay the man for his labor. The man delivers the
bricks and the couple build their house. Both parties go away happy and
satisfied at the results of the transaction. Is that fair? Did both parties
benefit? Did the man rob from the couple?
H: that is fair and the man did not
rob from the couple. But why do we have to involve money in the equation? Why can’t
they just both agree to do it for free in exchange for a happy and friendly
society? If money were not in the process both parties would still benefit from
the transaction. Both the couple and the brick maker would have been better
off.
M: how would the brick maker been
better off? He just spent several weeks making bricks for the couple and they
gave nothing in return.
H: well that depends on what they
did for society. No matter what they did it would somehow come back and benefit
the brick maker somehow. Or, if they were not directly benefiting him it would
still benefit society as a whole because they would provide service to someone
else who could provide a service to him. In the end it would all work out. We don’t
need money in society to run effectively.
M: but we do. How else are we going
to know if someone has helped out as much as another?
H: what do you mean?
M: the vast majority of times that
people have money it is because they did gave some good or service to another
member of society.
H: so what is the role of money in
your opinion?
It is important to note that my friend was
not being contentious at any point in the conversation. The whole time he was
asking sincere questions and even though he did agree with me on many of the
points I made he was still acting as the
provocateur in order to find a deeper or more understandable answer. He was
very respectful of my ideas and I was of his as well.
M: money tells society that another
member of society has helped out. Because, you do not receive any money unless
you perform some service or provide a certain good so someone else. There are
some dishonest cases in which money is transferred from one hand to the other,
and it is sad that this is reality. But, the huge, overwhelming majority of
times that money is exchanged it is done so on a voluntary basis.
H: like going to the store and
buying things?
M: exactly! Or having someone make
you bricks for your house.
H: but I’m still uncertain of one
thing. Why can’t you take money out of the equation and have society work? Why do
we have to rely on some arbitrary paper to determine our livelihood?
M: because if you don’t have money
how are you going to determine if someone has entered their fair share of
services into society? It would become a free-rider state. If people could get
all the wanted without showing proof of giving it would collapse very quickly. Just
like the USSR did. People would live better for a short time but then they
would collapse from lack of goods and services.
H: give me an example of why money
has to be used? Why cant we use some other form of verification such as a
voucher or certificate saying you helped out?
M: because then you are just giving
money a new name and appearance while leaving the substance essentially the
same.
H: Ok, that makes sense. But do you
have an example for me to understand this?
M: sure. Take the brick maker
again. If he wasn’t using money to calculate how well he was doing he could
very well make a much inferior product. He would not be able to tell which
process of brick making he was using is the most efficient. He wouldn’t be able
to tell if his inventory sits a long time for nothing (thus wasting the time of
the miners who dig the minerals and not benefiting society in the least). How would
he be able to tell if he was using the best materials? Is he wasting too much
lime in the process or using more than his share? If you think about answers to
all of these it is not so simple as you might think. There has to be something
there to tell him if what he is doing is correct or not, beneficial or not,
wasteful or not, worthwhile or not. And that is what role money plays not only
in his brick making shop but also in the overall economy.
If it costs more to make the bricks
than it does to buy them he will never know. And because money was not there to
tell him if this were the case or not he may very well become a burden to
society by not producing in the most efficient manner. But neither society nor
the brick maker will ever know. And when this happens in such a simple company
how much easier it is in a complex company such as oil drilling or food
manufacturing? And when these larger companies begin to be a burden on society
it is only a matter of time before everyone in society is in poverty and in the
direct opposite circumstance that you have envisioned for them.
H: let me think about that and
maybe I can come up with some ways to work around these problems. It would only
take a matter of time before you came up with a way of measuring the success
and failures of a system like that.
M: well you have a huge head start.
Go read all of the economic writings of Eastern Europe and the USSR from the
1900’s and you will see that they got almost nowhere in their quest to do what
you are thinking about. Something that you will find as you read their
philosophies is that they all wanted to go back to a free market and let people
make money and choices and failures and all the economic criteria of a free
society.
H: I’ll start reading it and see if
I can find a way. This is important to me, I think this world deserves better
than it has right now.
M: I agree with you. People deserve
better than they have right now. If we let socialism and governments get out of
the way we could find that Utopia that you are seeking. It will be a better
place. Where everyone pitches in and everyone gets rewarded according to their abilities
and achievements.
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